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Post by Erdawn Il Deus » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:12 pm

So I'm just wondering how many other people here think that Advent Children is complete garbage outside the animation. Also how many people think Crisis Core, Before Crisis, and Dirge of Cerberus are all equally retarded and in the same garbage bin of creativity. I am wondering whether anyone else misses the artwork of Amano when he used to work on the Final Fantasy series, and why FFIX kicked ungodly ammounts of ass in terms of art-work. Every since Nomura has been granted more power over the FF franchise, the series has steadily been taking retarded spins into exploitative levels. The fact that Nomura is retarded is indeniable. There is nothing salvageable in the plotlines of any Final Fantasy 7 spin-off. Nothing.

And I also remember when names like Genesis fecking Rhapsodos started appearing. Genesis. Rhapsodos. What in the name of all the hells.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:10 pm

If you can believe it, a lot of the heat is coming not just from those of us who think FFVII is overrated, but fans of the game themselves (they aren't fanboys because they don't let FFVII define their video game life).

FFXII was a nice break from all of that though, to be fair. -CSM

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Post by Wyborn » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:10 pm

I think FFXIII is the last Final Fantasy that Nomura is wokring on, if that means anything.

And hey, he had nothing whatsoever to do with 12.
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Post by Erdawn Il Deus » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:08 pm

Very well aware of that. Else their wardrobe would include nothing but belts and they'd all be ridiculously acrobatic and Jedi during fight scenes.

Also Cameron get the hell on AIM. Me and Garett are calling you out.
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Post by Wyborn » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:16 pm

I've been on but invisible for like a month. Work is killing me. Drop a line if you want but I won't be talking much.
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Post by Jesus » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:38 pm

The artwork may be exploitative, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the new final fantasy games are becoming more and more beautiful to look at. I'm not a FFVII fanboy, nor am i obsessed with the series in general. I just think that since Final Fantasy 10 that the game has become more and more beautiful to look at in terms of characters and artwork. I guess a good example would be to compare Final Fantasy 10 to Dragon Quest Swords. Both by Squaresoft, but you definitely see which has the upper hand in terms of graphics, scenary, and artwork. (not trying to dis the DBZ artist either)


You say how you are upset at how much of an effort they put into the games, but why is that such a bad thing?


I find all of Amano's artwork for males to be all too similar yet androgynous. Nomura adds variety to the people. I don't hate Amano's work (he's a great artist) but I find that the androgony factors he keeps throwing in is just something I don't like to look at. It's like Raiden from MGS2.

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Post by Wyborn » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:43 pm

If you think FF10 has better artwork than FF1-6, FF9, or FF12, buddy, you're are supposed to puff-puff-pass. You are messing up the rotation.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:08 pm

WvW, I appreciate the efforts to try, but they need to focus on things that actually deserve it. For example, I would be more than happy to wait 5 or 6 years for them to make Chrono Break so long as they were working hard over those 5 to 6 years to create a game as epic as Chrono Trigger was. -CSM

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Post by Jesus » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:28 pm

Wyborn wrote:If you think FF10 has better artwork than FF1-6, FF9, or FF12, buddy, you're are supposed to puff-puff-pass. You are messing up the rotation.
I mean ff10-ff12. I just prefer nomura over Amano. It's just an opinion. Don't worry as I've praised Amano's work several times.

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Post by Wyborn » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:12 pm

Nomura didn't work on FF11 or FF12.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:21 pm

Yeah, that was Yoshida, who also did Tactics. He's very talented. -CSM

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:22 pm

I love Yoshida's work. The games he's done ranks SO very high up on my list.

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Post by Inferno Dragon » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:34 pm

yeah, nomura worked on 10, KH1&2, and all the spin-offs
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:42 pm

Though, I don't mean to discredit Nomura completely - I loved 10, and enjoyed KH too.

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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:14 pm

I don't like his work, but FF7 and FF10 are both really fun to play, and FF10 in particular. -CSM

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Post by Galefore » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:15 pm

WvW, if you honestly think Amano draws men any more androgynous than Nomura, I wonder if you even know who the hell we're talking about.

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Post by Erdawn Il Deus » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:40 am

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Are you ****ing kidding me.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:47 am

You know, I know a lot of people who hate Amano because they think his artwork is messy. -CSM

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Post by Erdawn Il Deus » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:55 pm

That's not even an argument.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:07 pm

^It's not. I don't understand how they like their graphics simple and Hollywood like as supposed to New York like (I say New York like because Amano lives in a community of artists, famous and not-so-famous, in Chelsea). -CSM

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