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Post by Nameless Author » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:53 pm

That's it. I'm done. Your last post was the final straw, Wyborn. I'll quote from the rules you wrote up, just to give this more of an impact.

2. Respect the other writers. I know that sounds very broad, and it is, but I have some particular points to make here. Respect is pretty simple in and of itself, and despite the nature of the place you should be courteous to other writers when you're not in-character. The only really important thing here is If you write someone else's character as doing something (and it's a perfectly acceptable practice), make sure that it's not something that doesn't make sense for that character. To make an example here, if you are fighting someone who's character is a giant, hideous ogre, you would not have them shy away when you pull a pocket knife on them. If they're fearless, don' make them into cowards. If they're smart, don't make them seem like idiots. In fact, Never make your opponent look like an incompetent moron.

I dunno, making my mage never even mount a single defense when getting pummeled by you certainly makes me look incompetent, doesn't it? So does the fact that you claim to know how he thinks, which, I would like to say, you were completely wrong about. He's a mage, not some pansy child you stands around doing nothing while he's getting beat up. Strike One.

3. Don't do something that would completely obliterate your enemy in one post. This is kind of hard to define - you can do pretty much anything you want to your enemy, but don't just freaking nuke them or something. Likewise, don't severe their heads, or slit their throats, or do something that there is no way possible they could survive in a thousand years. Try to control yourself. Believe me, you can still be brutal without being cheap.

Somehow, I think turning my organs to paste, exploding my face, burning off all my skin EVEN WHEN I SAID I HAVE ARMOR ON, wrapping me in Light that somehow covers an entire friggin' city and then making it explode, and otherwise performing damage to me when I specifically told you Frost is unable to withstand that kind of abuse and uses magic to shield himself more than seems cheap to me, not to mention it would make me, oh I don't know, DEAD. I call you on complete and utter godmoding. Strike Two.

3. Don't act uuber [sic]-powerful compared to everyone around you. I cannot stress this enough. In a battle this is very important, but it's even moreso for story topics because it can really upset the balance that the topic author is trying to set. I'll get into this in more detail in the topic-specific rules.

So Wyborn is both a master of Light (generally termed magic), great at physical combat, has pinpoint throwing accuracy, and can withstand hits that would kill someone magic or not? Call the presses, we got a Mary Sue!

Frost is top of his game at ice magic, save for those older and more experienced with only that specific school. So he's powerful, but physically weak. It's extraordinarily easy to break through that ice armor, and once that happens he has to reform it or be at a severe disadvantage in close range. He dies very easily, but has defense to make that a reduced threat. In short, he is balanced. You, however, are the master of all things, which is also termed godmoding and Mary Sueing. Strike Three.

I wash my hands of Gunjin. I tried your style and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. You claimed that Galefore was not representative of the Gunjin way when I asked about things in his posts I was concerned you would try. and then you pull the very same things he did. So I'm guessing a moderator is not representative? You have screwed up royally, Wyborn, in thinking that I would just allow this travesty of a fight to continue without raising objections when you had ample material I gave to you back in the beginning stages.

So, good-bye, good luck, and good riddance. Call me when you want to have a fair fight, not destroyer of worlds versus above-average mage. To those of Gunjin, there. I tried your style and must say that if your moderators are indicative of the general way around here, then there is no reason to even hope for an inter-forum tournament as was being planned. You can go on being gods of destruction if you want, but I'll have no part of it.

All of my characters are being withdrawn from any RP they're in here.

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Post by Galefore » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:31 pm

Hmm. Fine, leave. You have some sort of problem with Wyborn, you shouldn't have fought him. Honestly, it's called brutality. Normally, if you really want to call us rule-breaking death gods, you could have healed and then turned around and written worse. If you wanted to be creative in any way, you could have just ripped him apart in return or made a creative come back or pulled a ****ing Naruto on him and say it was a clone/substitute. I mean, the guy could have handled it. No need to act like this, because honestly, getting pissed over Wyborn's attacks will get you nowhere. Now, I'm glad you had the gumption to cite the rules. So let me pull this apart.

1: There's a such thing you seem to have a problem with something called Controlling your character. In his attack, Wy avoided controlling your mage. I have no idea how he would have dodged most of this, but honestly, he might have been able to. Character control, however, is still against many things you've cited in your rules. I must say, as I stated earlier, you could have dealt with that damage in many fair ways. Wyborn really doesn;t know your character's capabilities, and honestly probably should have given him some dodges here and there, but otherwise he was flying blind. Unfortunately, that led to the damage, which you should have still tried to come back at tenfold. Come on man, back up your words and pummel him.

2: Again, see 1. You could have done any number of things. Wyborn's character is indeed doing a lot of over-the-top stuff here, which he may or may not have done on purpose, but you have creativity. I've seen it in action. ****ing use it.

3: ...Wyborn himself is not one of Wy's better creations, in my opinion. And yes, he is pretty over-powered. But he is freaking creative, fresh, and he is played well. Sure, that's no excuse for his tirade of powers, but in order to survive half of these things, your character needs to adapt. Fight back, dude, that's all I have to say. again, there are many ways to have survived that post.

Again, I do indeed represent my forum. That battle with Mori was quite literally (admitted on my part as well) a travesty, and I was flying blind myself. Because both me and Wyborn were being limited by your restrictions. I kept worrying about making a mistake, and every post I made was some evil horror only because I was trying to stick to my style but still adhere to what was acceptable by you. Instead, it didn;t work, and I apologize for the foolishness and idiocy I created in that topic. But there is no need to blow your top over Wy's last post.

So screw it, if you want to leave, fine. But if you want to try one last time to come back and do some damage, and prove yourself while your at it, go ahead. Otherwise, you're free to leave, and I will forever mark this as just another battle in the Gunjin's history.

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Post by Firestorm » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:01 pm

Unfortunate

While it is true, Nameless, that Wyborn royally ripped your character a new one, that is basically how things work here. However, just because he inflicted so much damage doesn't mean he's breaking any rules. One glimpse at the tournament will demonstrate that incredible amounts of damage can be inflicted in a short period of time or a limited number of posts.

Your guy is not dead; injured, yes, but not dead (unless you decide that he can't take it). Our characters on the Gunjin typically withstand mass amounts of carnage before giving up the ghost, and that same ability is also yours to utilize.

In other words, the solution here is to rip Wyborn's arms off and beat him over the head with them, or something to that effect. :D

I hope you'll reconsider leaving; letting a difference in style preferences prevent this fight from reaching a conclusion would be a shame. I haven't enjoyed reading a fight this much since... well... ever, almost. It's a good match-up.

I did notice that you let one of your habits from KAF carry over, and it kinda hurt you here. You should have just used that ice-spike attack to inflict damage; ending the post with the attack still in progress leaves Wyborn with a limitless number of ways to avoid it. While that is proper etiquette on KAF, the rule of thumb on the Gunjin would be impaling your opponent and describing the demolition of his entrails.

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Post by Wyborn » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:05 pm

I'll argue for myself, but thank you, Galefore.

I'm familiar with my own rules, Frost, but thank you for bringing them up.

What you (and Galefore) have apparently missed is that I RPed Frost throughout my whole post. He was throwing around so much more energy than Wyborn that it wasn't funny.

The impetus for the inferno was the perversion of Frost's cold, which Wyborn took control of once the mage was in a state of temporary shock. Again, Frost's power, not Wyborn's.

The entire crux of your argument is that I made Frost not fight back, when I had him fight back as much as anyone could have asked for.

That's why he lost only one eye.

That's why Wyborn's magic did anything in the first place.

That's why my character hit as hard as he did.

If you can suggest some way of devising a fire-defense more profound than "enough cold to kill an iron foundry", you are free to explain it to me. The idea that I did anything but play Frost as being a powerhouse who happened to be tricked is ridiculous. Wyborn used almost none of his own power - again, it was all Frost, and you're screaming into the night about nothing.

Wyborn didn't take hits that would have killed anyone; he's a glass cannon, if that happened he would already be dead. I hate to quote Morpheus, but "stop trying to hit me - and hit me.

As for how much Frost can survive....
But, so long as I can manipulate ice, I can fight until my body turns to dust.
Your words and his. What I did was nowhere near turning Frost into dust - not even in the same general neighborhood. The injuries I gave you are grave, yes, but only for the sake of-

Actually hold on, I think I understand the problem here.

Frost: I'm not trying to beat you.

Before you balk at the notion, it would be best to hear me out: winning is not what a fight at VGF is about. We are a cooperative board, not a competitive one, and winning means approximately nothing to any of us. Every attack I make and every wound I inflict (major or minor) is there for the sake of giving you an opportunity to write something interesting, if not downright awe-inspiring. I don't give two flying damns about which one of our characters walks away from this: do you think it would make me feel like less of a battler if Wyborn ended up with his head torn from his shoulders and his flesh nibbled upon by zombies? The answer i no.

Violence is not a medium for victory here, Frost, it's a method for inspiring others. I blew Frost up by turning a hellish version of his own energy against him - oo la dee da. Do something cooler with it. This is a dance, man. We are not opponents; we are partners. You can't throw a hissy fit and act like you're four years old just because the move I did happened to be the Dixie Twist. Play with me, man, else why are you here?

It's spiteful of you to walk out of other RPs because of what I did - especially when it was according to the rules set down.

It's somehow worse, though, that someone with so much potential for the style walks out because he doesn't have the heart to stand up and seize the reins when they're passed to him.

This topic will stay open, and I'll await your post anyway.
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Post by Joker » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:59 pm

:clap:

I actually thought this fight was coming along quite nice...goes to show you what I know about battles.
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Post by The Willful Wanderer » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:39 pm

(A bad idea was 'kidnap'?) () o O_o;

I shall say only the two things thusly:

Firstness, I am having much for the amaze at vehemence shown here in response to the form of combat unliked; I would rare to have thought one might be so blinkered as to presume a brief sampling of two a total disclosure of the nature of all. This greatly for the sadness does make, in that it is showing of some portion considerable of mind while still remaining quite tiny.

Of the point second, if to be having such defenses makes a mage, then perhaps to be actively deciding to make for them a use is quite more appropriate? Such things I did while the fight with Repster I made in posting for the NLBFT, and for quite the well-working out it was. To have decide already beforehand what defense are making from protection, and enact as such that they were to have been, will for the creating thus of a greater belief and larger variety, optionwise, than supposing the one who does conflict with your interests shall know of what is in your head for the protecting, without having to said it at them.

Ah, well, for the pronunciation of this, I supposed, my birthday may for being of the lateness from time to say, however still I feel might be likewise need for this, to having said at some point. And to the time I am having now.
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Post by Wyborn » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:45 am

Bump.
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Post by Wyborn » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:02 pm

OoC: Bumping this up again.

This forum is too quiet. -OoC
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Post by Nameless Author » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:03 pm

Since I was informed by a source that you continue to drag this topic up from the dead, I'll make things clear.

I did say that Frost could fight so long as he can manipulate ice, but take a peek at your exact words here.
His flesh cracked and flaked and blackened, falling off in strips, and he felt the burn reaching down into his bones.
Heat has twice the effect on someone like Frost. This alone would be enough to incapacitate him for a long time. Even if it didn't, you've never researched exactly what happens to burn victims, have you? This level of damage alone would send any human into shock and kill him quickly, without any hope to survive unless they were rescued by someone who knows how to handle that state.
The fluid of his eyes expanded from the heat and the ocular membrane in the right one burst and it ran down his face in a stream of white.
He's now blind. Take a look back when he used the Frozen Shard, the left eye was enchanted glass and burst into pieces. That means he lost vision in one eye, and now both.
The insides of his lungs were burnt to cinders.
He can no longer breathe, or if he could then it would be so laborious that he would die anyways.
His tongue crumbled to ash in his mouth and was blown out between his teeth.
Can't talk anymore.
The psychic felt the boy's ribs shatter, could see his organs turned to paste.
He's now dead. Even if he managed to survive the other ones, he's a seven-year old human kid who has his organs turned to mush and/or pierced by the broken ribs. There is no way he can survive that. He can only manipulate ice so long as he's alive, which isn't possible anymore.

Congratulations, you auto-killed Frost, something forbidden by Gunjin Rules. I tried to play it your way, the Gunjin way, and even explained Frost to you on AIM when you were making your posts, explained things I haven't even revealed anywhere else just so we could have a good fight. But that didn't do any good, now did it?

My characters are not avatars of destruction. They are weak, flawed, and well-rounded in terms of development. In all the roleplay forums I've fought in, only Gunjin has characters so limitless in power that mine apparently never stood a chance. And why stick around to fight when you know that no matter what you will always lose.

I roleplay to have fun. Being insulted by having someone tell me to pull Deus Ex Machina just to survive an attack is not fun. Having every piece of information I shared get ignored is not fun. Gunjin is not fun.

That is it. That is all. And if I win the "Worst N00b" for calling someone on the rules, rules established by Gunjin long before I got here, then I wonder what that makes the rule-breakers.

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Post by Wyborn » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:42 pm

Wow.

Thanks for not reading my post, Frost. It's nice to know you're so receptive to the olive branch.
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Post by The Willful Wanderer » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:14 am

Can't clown, eat will sleep me.

Nameless, the reason you got nominated- and I'm hazarding a guess here, because I made precisely zero nominations myself- is your response to this.

The N00b thing you did was *not* arguing.

The N00b thing you did was respond to a disagreement with ONE PERSON by LEAVING THIS BOARD ENTIRELY. That is not a good response. That is not a reasonable response. That is a pretty ****ing ludicrous response, and very disrespectful to anyone else who was expecting your presence for anything else.

I was willing to leave it at a 'well, that was kinda overboard but whatever', but now you've stepped back in just to try and pick up arguing with Wyborn.

No apologies to the people in the other topics you were in, in or out of the gunjin, no indication that you care at all about anything other than that one fight.

THAT is what you did that is N00bish. THAT is what you did that demonstrates a very poor capacity for empathy. Do not think for a moment that this topic here says anything about you other than that you think differently than Wyborn.

I swear, I'm getting *really* tired of people so badly misinterpereting stuff. It's just ****ing amazing, I tell you.

Sigh.

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Post by Nameless Author » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:29 pm

Selene Starblade wrote:Nameless, the reason you got nominated- and I'm hazarding a guess here, because I made precisely zero nominations myself- is your response to this.

The N00b thing you did was *not* arguing.

The N00b thing you did was respond to a disagreement with ONE PERSON by LEAVING THIS BOARD ENTIRELY. That is not a good response. That is not a reasonable response. That is a pretty ****ing ludicrous response, and very disrespectful to anyone else who was expecting your presence for anything else.

I was willing to leave it at a 'well, that was kinda overboard but whatever', but now you've stepped back in just to try and pick up arguing with Wyborn.

No apologies to the people in the other topics you were in, in or out of the gunjin, no indication that you care at all about anything other than that one fight.

THAT is what you did that is N00bish. THAT is what you did that demonstrates a very poor capacity for empathy. Do not think for a moment that this topic here says anything about you other than that you think differently than Wyborn.

I swear, I'm getting *really* tired of people so badly misinterpereting stuff. It's just ****ing amazing, I tell you.

Sigh.

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Wow, shows what you know. For your information I did in fact let Firestorm know (politely) that I was dropping from Gunjin and I gave him the information necessary to use the character introduced when mine beat the hasty retreat out. In fact, pretty much all the topics I was in (grand total of two) was RP'ed per my primary persona, which is not Frost.

And yes, I left because of one person. Why? Because that person was supposedly one of the top people here, the one who showed what Gunjin was all about. So, in other words, all he's shown me is that Gunjin is about skirting the issue, ignoring valid points in an argument, and continuing to drag things up even when the person is long gone.

So, yes, I left because, according to all of you, Wyborn is one of the top battlers here and is also held in high esteem. News flash, high position means that new people will watch your example to see how this board is. Were Wyborn just some random person, I probably would have stayed on. Not in this battle, though.

And for the record, yes I do in fact lack empathy. Logic is what I follow. If that leads me to an emotion, then hey that's what I'll feel. I am not the type who just lets things slide by without saying a word anymore.

So you're tired of yourself misinterpreting things then? Because if you haven't noticed, every single thing I quoted is bullet-proof fact. There is no debate, there is no rationalizing, there is no point to continuing this battle when my character is dead without me having a single chance to defend him.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:04 pm

So what if Wyborn blew you up.

ARGUE WITH HIM. Don't just leave forever. Talk, Say "I don't think that's how you should represent my character" Not "I HATE YOU! AM LEAVING FOREVER."

And I don't care about your facts, I care about you either A) Staying and talking it over with Wyborn, or B) Just hate him forever. People have done worse, and personally, Wyborn just went overboard, that's all.

You can settle your differences. You don't have to leave just because he misunderstood what you ment by "Use Ice Magic until you turn to dust". He can edit that post and you can continue.

Even Better, start a new Topic, And Have Wyborn use a Different Character.

You're blowing out of proportion something that could have been resolved with a few PMs

Oh, and READ THE WHOLE POST Thank you.

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Post by Nameless Author » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:14 pm

Tazy 10 wrote:So what if Wyborn blew you up.

ARGUE WITH HIM. Don't just leave forever. Talk, Say "I don't think that's how you should represent my character" Not "I HATE YOU! AM LEAVING FOREVER."

And I don't care about your facts, I care about you either A) Staying and talking it over with Wyborn, or B) Just hate him forever. People have done worse, and personally, Wyborn just went overboard, that's all.

You can settle your differences. You don't have to leave just because he misunderstood what you ment by "Use Ice Magic until you turn to dust". He can edit that post and you can continue.

Even Better, start a new Topic, And Have Wyborn use a Different Character.

You're blowing out of proportion something that could have been resolved with a few PMs

Oh, and READ THE WHOLE POST Thank you.
And another person who doesn't know enough commenting on what I should be doing.

You say I should argue, and then you say that you don't care about my facts, MAKE UP YOUR BLOODY MIND. And that's what I was doing with Wyborn for an hour or so last night, so, no, it would not have been resolved in "a couple PM's" since the world is not made of sunshine and rainbows like you seem to think.

Also, be damn careful when you put words in people's mouths, because it's not always going to end textually in real life. I never once said Frost could use ice magic until he's turned to dust. I made him say as long as he can use the magic, he can fight until he's turned to dust. HYPERBOLE, DUH. No one can use magic when they're a corpse, that's plain common sense. You also seem to think that I hate Wyborn. Hate is a useless emotion on the Internet. Dislike, yes, but not hate.

As for your last statement, look at the pot who's calling the kettle black. Try reading the entire post, then you might have seen that Wyborn and I conversed in AIM throughout the battle, with me explaining minute details about Frost that I have never shared with anyone else. He had all the information, and he flat-out ignored it.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:36 pm

^ It's still a misunderstanding that you can resolve instead of blow out of proportion and start a flame war.

Hyperbole or not, you can still misunderstand what the meaning is.

Anyone could still think you were literal.

I would appreciate it if you, instead of trying to condemn the Gunjin, try to resolve thing

You also seem to be kind of negative, acting as if Wyborn is actually the one at fault, when in truth that he is actually quite open to discussion with you.

And no fact will stop everyone on the Gunjin, heck maybe even all of VGF, from agreeing with me.

So, if you don't wanna resolve this without insulting everyone who doesn't agree that Wyborn is wrong, then maybe you do deserve the Gunjin's biggest noob Award.

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Post by Nameless Author » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:54 pm

Tazy 10 wrote:^ It's still a misunderstanding that you can resolve instead of blow out of proportion and start a flame war.
One minute you say I should argue and the next you don't want me to argue because it'll turn into a flame war.

I grow tired of idiots who cannot understand something before they shoot off their mouths.
Hyperbole or not, you can still misunderstand what the meaning is.

Anyone could still think you were literal.
You're one of the people who sues McDonalds because you spill coffee in your lap and didn't know it was hot, aren't you? Common sense isn't so common anymore. When the body dies then it ceases to function, that is it.
I would appreciate it if you, instead of trying to condemn the Gunjin, try to resolve thing
Again, stop putting words in my mouth. I did not condemn the Gunjin, I did not condemn Wyborn, I did not condemn the style. I just do not like it, which is my right.

And you either need to get some glasses or start practicing what you preach because you seem to have skated over the fact that Wyborn and I have been been conversing, and are no closer to a resolution than when we started.

Face facts you naive moron. Not everything can be resolved so neat and tidy. Some things cannot ever be resolved. You are living in a fantasy world.
You also seem to be kind of negative, acting as if Wyborn is actually the one at fault, when in truth that he is actually quite open to discussion with you.
My character has been killed without any chance for me to respond. OF COURSE I'M ****ING NEGATIVE YOU IDIOT.
And no fact will stop everyone on the Gunjin, heck maybe even all of VGF, from agreeing with me.
Get your head out of your ass, then maybe you'll see that what you are saying is ridiculous. Facts are what make up an argument. You are just going off what you feel, which has no place in this. Try arguing with someone just by telling them how you feel, you'll get laughed out of any serious debate.
So, if you don't wanna resolve this without insulting everyone who doesn't agree that Wyborn is wrong, then maybe you do deserve the Gunjin's biggest noob Award.
Words in the mouth...again. I have not insulted everyone. I have not insulted Wyborn. I have, however, insulted you because your input was irrelevant, unnecessary, uninformed, and illogical.

You stuck your nose into something that does not concern you, without even knowing the background of the issue. Now kindly get out.
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Post by The Willful Wanderer » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:14 pm

Nameless Author wrote:Wow, shows what you know. For your information I did in fact let Firestorm know (politely) that I was dropping from Gunjin and I gave him the information necessary to use the character introduced when mine beat the hasty retreat out. In fact, pretty much all the topics I was in (grand total of two) was RP'ed per my primary persona, which is not Frost.
Uh-huh. What about, oh, I don't know, the TOPICS YOU WERE DISCUSSING IN ON OTHER PARTS OF VGF. Whether or not you informed Firestorm, you said nothing outside of this topic about your reasons for leaving the entire BBS, and made it rather plain that you didn't intend to ever return.
Nameless Author wrote:And yes, I left because of one person. Why? Because that person was supposedly one of the top people here, the one who showed what Gunjin was all about. So, in other words, all he's shown me is that Gunjin is about skirting the issue, ignoring valid points in an argument, and continuing to drag things up even when the person is long gone.

So, yes, I left because, according to all of you, Wyborn is one of the top battlers here and is also held in high esteem. News flash, high position means that new people will watch your example to see how this board is. Were Wyborn just some random person, I probably would have stayed on. Not in this battle, though.
I can see where this applies to the Gunjin. Now please explain how his position as a top battler also means that he is representative of the entire VGF community. Because I honestly can't see that.
Nameless Author wrote:And for the record, yes I do in fact lack empathy. Logic is what I follow. If that leads me to an emotion, then hey that's what I'll feel. I am not the type who just lets things slide by without saying a word anymore.
Did I say 'you should have said and done nothing'? Where did I say that? I sure don't remember saying that.

And if you don't feel any empathy for others, well then, that's one of the most critical parts of the definition of 'N00b'. Thinking only of things as they relate to you in the emotional sense, and not caring about the impact on others. Logic is very good for math and for certain forms of science. For dealing with people, it flies about like a lead brick.
Nameless Author wrote:So you're tired of yourself misinterpreting things then? Because if you haven't noticed, every single thing I quoted is bullet-proof fact. There is no debate, there is no rationalizing, there is no point to continuing this battle when my character is dead without me having a single chance to defend him.
If you haven't noticed, regardless of the facts of things you QUOTED, the things you SAID are largely either a: wrong, b: demonstrative of an inability to take into account the intrinsic value of other people, or c: blatantly inflammatory without due reason.

Regardless of all else, my grumph over misinterperetation was about you interpereting the nomination for the N00b award as resulting from what you did in this topic.

****all about this topic, that award's for your overreaction to this topic by simply abandoning this entire social group as untenable. The manner in which you have chosen to continue this argument (and, in fact, the very fact that you came back for no other reason than to continue said argument, despite having ostensibly finished) demonstrates what is considered a N00bish attitude. I and most other people don't give a heap of rotting fishheads about your skill level or what you're used to, your attitude, particularly relating to the way you chose to assume that everyone on this entire BBS is exactly like one representative member (which isn't even a logical assumption, nevermind a valid one), and thus with no consideration to how it would miff, irritate, inconvenience, or trouble others, left.

Again, my irritation is over a: the fact that you decided to respond to the existence of this argument in an inconsiderate, illogical, and unsensible manner and b: that you misinterpereted the award nomination as being because you argued with Wyborn.

Particularly since, as Wyborn can tell you, I ARGUE WITH HIM ALL THE FETHING TIME about battle-related stuff- particularly physics, spirituality, and likely actions and responses of characters. And frequently, we each have to give up on convincing the other of something, and just try something other than what we originally intended. It's inconvenient to us, but considerate to each other, and to anyone who happens to feel like reading what we write.

So no, if I'm misinterpereting what you say, you're clearly doing just as badly at interpereting what I say. Communication is two ways, Nameless. TWO ways.

Sidenote: Tazy, what the heck are you doing here?

Further sidenote: Incidentally, Nameless, if you intend to somehow make your argument more convincing by calling people names like 'naive moron', I strongly suggest other methods.
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Post by Apiary Tazy » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:24 pm

You know what.

Screw this.

You two will come to an Agreement. RIGHT NOW!


Wyborn: So, you made one mistake. Even if you were not trying. You still seemed to kill him. You just obliterated Frost, And I call a Rematch Topic.

You use a Different Character.

He may use any character he wants.

If this happens again, then you may need to rework your style.



Nameless Author: The fact is, that things are only negative if you keep it that way, and that if someone doesn't agree with you, you must tell them off.

Talking doesn't seem to be working, so I guess the only option is to fight again.

If you don't agree, then you are flaming the Gunjin. No ifs ands or Buts.

Also do not respond to this posts with Insulting words


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If this continues, than I will have to get this Topic locked, or involve the Supermods/Admins to this situation.

When I get Back, I'm making a Wyborn V. Frost.


AND I BETTER SEE A BETTER ENDING THAN THIS OR ELSE.

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Post by The Willful Wanderer » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:29 pm

Erm.

Tazy? While it's an okay idea and all.... I really don't think Nameless considers you enough of an authority to be doing that, and I seriously doubt Wyborn would care for it either. Hell, I bet my intrusion isn't liked to boot, but I'm starting to get irked at the repeat misunderstanding of the intent of the N00b award. I'm only here to clarify/defend/explain/bake a pie with/congestify that. I'm staying out (or trying to ) of the actual argument between Nameless and Wyborn as much as I reasonably can. I suggest everyone else do so also.
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Post by Wyborn » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:47 pm

Tazy: Go away or I will report your ass so fast that your eyes will bleed. The last thing we need is somebody coming in and yelling, meta-modding all over the place and acting like they have some kind of authority. Again: go away.

I'll respond to this situation in earnest in a few hours, since for whatever reason Frost stopped responding to my IMs last night without a word as to why.
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