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Post by AJ Middleton » Fri May 02, 2003 6:41 pm

Jay's just hatin' on CC's awesome plot.
Originally posted by 1.21 Jiggawatts:
Like WTF is the deal with Masamune being back and now this evil blade? Does that have something to do with it slaying Lavos or something? I don't get it.
It's all explained in the game...

The Masamune never went away in the first place. It's a sword that brings out the most true feelings in a person's heart (explained multiple times.) I suppose Glenn was the last noble person to ever use it. The ending of the PSX version of CT shows the Masamune standing alone during the fall of Guardia. Obviously it fell into the wrong hands so many times and performed so many bad deeds that it just became stained with evil. Masa and Mune were almost put under some evil spell by what they went through, as they seem to imply after you beat Dario.

And no Jay, I didn't infer that. It's all said in the game.

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Post by AJ Middleton » Sat May 03, 2003 12:41 am

^It's not like it's much to understand...

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Post by AJ Middleton » Sat May 03, 2003 12:12 pm

Honestly, you must have fallen asleep for a part of the game. That's like asking how Magus is Janus.

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Post by AJ Middleton » Sat May 03, 2003 5:47 pm

[Using the Fiddler Crab, an opening appears to the Dead Sea. They enter.]
[Inside, they get out of the boat and find a huge sword inbedded in the ground.]
Radius: W-What is the evil sword, Masamune, doing here!?
[He walks up to it, it emits a powerful field.]
Radius: Ugh... It's no use... We will not be able to proceed without going mad.
Serge... We have no choice but to withdraw for now.
[Later...]
Radius: The path appears to be blocked off by that sword. He must already be in
there... The negative sentiment associated with that sword has intensified. It will
be impossible to proceed without going mad...
Harle: Zere haz to be a way! Ze Dead Sea iz right under our nose!
Radius: Only the dragon sword, Einlanzer, can break the seal of the Masamune.
Harle: Ze Einlanzer?
Radius: Yes... The legendary holy sword, forged by the Dragonites... I have placed
that sword to rest beside its rightful owner, Garai. May he rest in peace within
that cavern... Although it pains me to disturb his eternal sleep, we have no other
choice...
Harle: Where iz zis cavern...?
Radius: We know it today as the "Isle of the Damned." It used to be an ordinary
cavern until it mutated into a nesting ground for demons... I believe this may be the
result of Garai's sentiments which lingered. A negative sentiment, which the holy
sword could not even restrain. In order to make our way in there, we need a certain
item that Garai used while he was still alive. I have stored it away in a hut where
Garai and I used to train. We must go and get this item...
[They go to the Hermit's Hideaway...]
Radius: ...... Dario's father, Garai, and I used to frequent this island for our
training...
[He flashes back to years before, they are dueling. Garai wins.]
Radius: Sigh... I lose again...
Garai: Hmph! You're always a half-step too slow. And you have a habit of turning your
wrist when you swing down. I can read your every move.
Radius: Hah! You're about the only one who knows that, since we practice together so
often.
Garai: And I thought I was a genius.
Radius: Yeah, right...
[They laugh.]
Radius: The Einlanzer is a legendary holy sword passed unto the most skilled swordsmen
of the Acacia Dragoons. It belonged to Garai before Dario took over the title. He was
a magnificent dragoon...
[Radius and Garai are in a cavern, the Masamune is in front of them.]
Radius: Could this really be it? The sword of legend... The Masamune!!! My word...
Garai: Leave it alone! There's something... wrong about this.
Radius: What could be wrong? This is a legendary sword!!!
Garai: No! Don't touch it!
[Radius takes the sword and holds it high.]
Radius: See, Garai... There's nothing to fear!
Garai: ...... Hmm, perhaps not. Let's go, Radius! No use hanging round this eerie place.
[He leaves.]
Radius: Aahhh...
[He leaves. Back to the present...]
Radius: The Masamune... That sword is cursed with hate and sorrow... Anyone who lays his
hands on it will be overcome with negative sentiments and will be driven mad... I......
...... Enough talk from an old man... Just wait here a moment.
[He goes into his house and comes out a minute later.]
Radius: Sorry to keep you waiting. With this mirror, we should be able to make it to the
inner parts of the Isle of the Damned. Let us be off to the "Isle of the Damned."
[They go there and eventually reach a grave, where the Einlanzer lays.]
Grave: Radius Lynx Harle May you all rest in peace
Radius: No... Garai...! Nary a day passes when I haven't looked back on that day...
I was overcome by the power of that sword!
[He flashes back to years before, when they found the Masamune. Radius and Garai are
heading down the cliff towards the exit.]
Garai: Who'd have though we'd find the Masamune in a place like this...!?
Radius: I know... Hey, Garai...
Garai: What?
[He stabs him.]
Garai: Aaarrrggghhh...!? What the...?
[He dies.]
Radius: HAHAHAHAHAA! Now I'm the top swordsman of the Acacia Dragoons! Hah, I did it!
I'm the greatest! HAHAHAHAAH...
[He throws down the sword.]
Radius: Huh? What happenened? Oh Lord...? What have I done? NOOOOOOOOO!!!
[Present...]
Radius: I know I lost my sanity because of that sword... But I must admit, the sword
was not entirely to blame. I was jealous of Garai... I wanted to be the better
swordsman. The once removed Masamune... "The Holy Sword That Conquered Darkness."
Could it be merely a tool for murder...?
Voice: Should you feel remorse for what you have done, then may you fall by my sword,
you traitor!
[Garai's ghost appears.]
Radius: Garai!? No...! Listen to me, Garai! We need the Einlanzer to seal the cursed
evil sword!
Garai: Then express your intent to the Einlanzer... ...As a true swordsman would do.
You must defeat me to proceed!
Radius: In order to believe in what is right... must one suffer pain and sorrow?
Garai: Do not hesitate Show me the pride and honor of the Acacia Dragoons. Come, Radius!
[They fight him.]
[You get the Einlanzer.]
Radius: I have always been prepared to fall to a sword held by one of your sons...
Perhaps Glenn will now take that role, now that Dario is gone. However, I must attend
to some unfinished business. Please wait a little longer. Garai... Forgive me, my
friend...
[They go back to Death's Door.]
Radius: Oh, Garai... We shall use the holy powers of the Einlanzer...
[He takes out the sword, it emits a ray of power.]
Radius: The sword is a reflection of one's soul. How I pity you... You've done no
wrong, either...
[The Masamune explodes.]
Radius: I just hope that, one day, that sword will be freed of enmity...
Mune: Huaaah... You awake, Masa?
Masa: Yeah... But looking back... I think we've done something terrible.
Mune: Heh heh... No one will know if we don't tell.
The Masamune obviously was part of the war between Porre and Guardia.

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Post by AJ Middleton » Sat May 03, 2003 7:36 pm

I'm sorry if CC requires you to infer things on your own.

The Porre-Guardia War is talked about in CC. Chronicles only enforces it. The fact is, the Masamune takes on the traits of whoever holds it. You have to infer that it was used for evil many times between 600 and 1020. Really, whatever it went through is irrelevant.

Codie, the Masamune was never made to do good thing. It was a weakness of Lavos and the people of Zeal, but that has to do with the whole Dreamstone vs. Lavos = Earth vs. Parasite complex. It is still capable of evil. As Melchoir says:

"This weapon represents considerable power. Your actions may either save or destroy life!"

BTW, "through" is passing through something; "threw" is to physically move it.

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Post by AJ Middleton » Sun May 04, 2003 10:16 am

^You know, that makes sense. Glenn had to forgive the past and move on in life in order to fully purify his heart, making the Masamune super holy.

I don't think the Masamune itself is evil towards all humans. Maybe it exploits the evil in everyone's hearts a lot easier that it would for a Reptile, but it was definitely evil towards the Zealots (hehheh) because they lived with and for Lavos.

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