Bots (AI battles)

Viceroy Nute Gunray · #41

The Gollum Twin is way too strong.

OcarinaMan · #42

Just level up, noob.

Rubber Band Man · #43

Put in some funkin Super Mario RPG Music.

heh · #44

The Willful Wanderer · #45

Here's some off the top of my head.... This is based on the assumption that Wolf is 10-16 exp (which is what I've been getting- a range of exp.)

Sharp Turtle
Level: 1
HP/Max HP: 80
MP/Max MP: 10
STR: 15
DEF: 40
EVA: 5
VIT: 20
Exp: 6-16
Rage: 5
Limit Break: Decapitate
Munny: 35
Minimum Level Requirement: 1
Maximum Level Requirement: -

Axebeak
Level: 1
HP/Max HP: 40
MP/Max MP: 10
STR: 25
DEF: 20
EVA: 15
VIT: 10
Exp: 8-16
Rage: 15%
Limit Break: Hatchattack
Munny: 20
Minimum Level Requirement: 0
Maximum Level Requirement: N/A

Watery Jelly
Level: 1
HP/Max HP: 110
MP/Max MP: 10
STR: 20
DEF: 20
EVA: 5
VIT: 10
Exp: 8-16
Rage: 5%
Limit Break: Envelop
Munny: 25
Minimum Level Requirement: 0
Maximum Level Requirement: N/A

Fiddler Crab
Level: 2
HP/Max HP: 80
MP/Max MP: 30
STR: 50
DEF: 65
EVA: 20
VIT: 20
Exp: 16-22
Rage: 15%
Limit Break: Pinchfest
Munny: 60
Minimum Level Requirement: 1
Maximum Level Requirement: N/A

Sparkball
Level: 2
HP/Max HP: 80
MP/Max MP: 30
STR: 40
DEF: 30
EVA: 20
VIT: 15
Exp: 18-24
Rage: 30%
Limit Break: Sparkstorm
Munny: 40
Minimum Level Requirement: 1
Maximum Level Requirement: N/A

Clay Golem
Level: 2
HP/Max HP: 150
MP/Max MP: 10
STR: 40
DEF: 40
EVA: 10
VIT: 25
Exp: 20-28
Rage: 5%
Limit Break: Mudslide
Munny: 55
Minimum Level Requirement: 1
Maximum Level Requirement: N/A

The Willful Wanderer · #46

Here is a transcript of my battle with a Gollum Twin at Level 1.

RefreshBattle Log
Kirala Yuki casted Spark on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 7 leaving Gollum Twin them with 68 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 37 leaving Kirala Yuki with 72 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Cold on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 20 leaving Gollum Twin them with 48 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 0 leaving Kirala Yuki with 72 HP. This is because Kirala Yuki's defence was too good for Gollum Twin
Kirala Yuki casted Cold on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 48 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 12 leaving Kirala Yuki with 60 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Spark on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 48 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 35 leaving Kirala Yuki with 25 HP
Kirala Yuki used a healing potion taking her HP upto 105 and MP upto 60
Kirala Yuki casted Spark on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 48 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 11 leaving Kirala Yuki with 94 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Spark on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 4 leaving Gollum Twin them with 44 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 14 leaving Kirala Yuki with 80 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Cold on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 44 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 29 leaving Kirala Yuki with 51 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Spark on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 44 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 20 leaving Kirala Yuki with 31 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Spark on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 44 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 2 leaving Kirala Yuki with 29 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Cold on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 44 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 2 leaving Kirala Yuki with 27 HP
Kirala Yuki used a healing potion taking her HP upto 107 and MP upto 20
Kirala Yuki casted Spark on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 44 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 33 leaving Kirala Yuki with 74 HP
Kirala Yuki casted Cold on Gollum Twin dealing a damage of 0 leaving Gollum Twin them with 44 HP
Gollum Twin attacked Kirala Yuki dealing a damage of 14 leaving Kirala Yuki with 60 HP
Total Logs: 26

Using two double-light potions and still having to run away.

Given that the next monster down in difficulty is the Wolf, which I was beating up as a level 0 with just a dagger and boots, it is obvious there needs to be more in-between there.

Therefore:

Firebeetle
HP: 70
MP: 10
STR: 35
DEF: 35
EVA: 15
VIT: 15
Rage: 10%
Limit Break: None
Exp: 14-22
No minimum
No maximum

Cravdraa · #47

The exp that you get from a battle seems largly affected by how much damage you take and how long the battle lasts. In short, if you're not getting enough out of your fights, try letting the monster get in a few hits before you finish it off. The higher level monsters I've been fighting give me 32exp if I don't take any damage, but up to 200exp if I'm forced to use an item. Big difference.

The Willful Wanderer · #48

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

In a real-world perspective, it's about right- you learn more from a harder fight. But in the game, gaining more exp when you're more injured doesn't make as much sense- if it was more munny for a harder time it would, but accelerating your experience gain instead means that you'll have less munny than you would want to if you level up quickly by having long, hard fights, whereas someone who has ludicrously many short fights will have a lot more munny, but possibly be totally unable to use it.

The variation based on hardship can still be used, but the range needs to be a LOT smaller than that, if it is. As it stands now, the variability is too great, and it results in an unbalanced scenario if someone happens to have unusually bad or good luck on a regular basis, which happens a lot more than you would think.

heh · #49

[quote="Cravdraa]The exp that you get from a battle seems largly affected by how much damage you take and how long the battle lasts. In short"]

i Thought it was the other way around.

Gollum twins are Easy, But Anodes and Goblin Guards keep kicking my ass with and Average damage of 35. Thats quite a bit.

#50

I'll implement some of those monsters over the weekend.

I think all the lower level ones are pretty easy, up until maybe Goblin Guard, but it may depend on your job. I'm hit or miss on anodes.

Yes, experience is largely based on how much damage you take.

Rubber Band Man · #51

Oooh, throw in Croco or Geno, somethin, DAMNIT ADD SMRPG THINGS

The Willful Wanderer · #52

*points at her previous post* LIke I said, the range of the variable amount in the exp is too large. It needs to be evened out somehow....

Cravdraa · #53

It's not something that Shane can change. It's built into the system.

Cornell J · #54

I'm gonna have to jump in this this weekend.

The Willful Wanderer · #55

Grumph. It needs fixing anyways. Ah, well.

I'll just cope. ^_^

#56

Xeni should now be a viable level 5 bot, and Goblin Prince has been added between Goblin Guard and Anode. Is there anything else that's urgently needed?

The Willful Wanderer · #57

Something between Wolf (you can kill it at 0 level without much trouble) and Gollum Twin (still can't reliably kill it at level 3).

heh · #58

^C'mon, I was killing those at lv 0. You'll have to buy lots if potions, but the kills will fund for them.

Marilink · #59

I say we need VGF People. V-Mon, DVGBA, Mikey, Dai Grepher...

I'll put in stats tomorrow. I'm tired...Goodnight.

Viceroy Nute Gunray · #60

Some enemies from the Mario RPGs would be a nice addition, no?