Zelda Mafia Round 2 Night One (IMPORTANT, REPLACEMENT NEEDED!)

[ZeldaGirl]

ZG: The don't have much of a way to defend themselves. Blake brought up to much evidence.

Whoa. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Basically, you're admitting that they are in a BAD position and CANNOT defend themselves, yet you WILL NOT VOTE FOR ONE OF THEM and are DEMANDING that HOTTIE explain herself?

Here's a little addendum to Blake's dossier:

YOU'VE agreed with all three of them SEVERAL times today. By saying they have nothing do defend, you are implying that you AGREE with all of Blake's suspicions, yet you will not vote for them? You instead will vote for someone who HAS to explain her actions?

...It seems to me that you are actually covering for them. You are ALIGNING yourself with them.

Wow. I really have a strong suspicion that you are, in fact, mafia. And the way you dismiss Blake's claims and still go for Hottie even though you acknowledge that the evidence against Wy, RF, and SK is stronger lends even MORE support to Blake's theories that they are, in fact, in cahoots.

I'm getting ready to vote you off, ian...

[Daos]

ZG: The don't have much of a way to defend themselves. Blake brought up to much evidence.

CL: I'm assuming that you did not see my last post.

CL again. I already explained this. Role claiming is the only way that I can see for HotD to defend herself.

No, the only reason the mafia tried to get you to role claim the last game is they were trying to root out the heroes.

[I am nobody]

X-3: One role claim really dosen't make it that much easier for the mafia.

Assuming the mafia has 5 members, that leaves 16 people who they do not know the roles of. If one role claims, and they check it, that leaves 15 that they still have to sort through. Changing the odds of killing a hero from(Assuming there are 2) 1:8 to 1:7.5. (The slasher would have 20 left, and a 1:10 instead of 1:10.5)

[Apollo the Just]

Well, I'm doing this.

Retract FoS: Blake

I'm still watching you, but after seeing all this, I can't help but believe you.

Also, when you said

The fact is I really don't care because I decided this was my main objective in this round. Shall I be killed, this list will still be around.

I could not help but think that another reason you were not worried to die is because you have nothing to fear. You are calm when faced with such suspicion; and I am inclined to believe you... for now.

also.

Vote: Abstain

For now. I've come to realize that, though she may be suspicious... we don't have enough proof. We need more before voting.

[ZeldaGirl]

AND IF THE PERSON DOING THE CLAIM IS THE HERO??? WHAT THEN!?

Jeez, why is this so hard to get through to YOU of all people?

[Daos]

You forget that last round I had the ability to check someones role claim. I can only assume the mafia has the same ability this round. Yes, it does make a difference.

[I am nobody]

ZG: I am not changing my vote for 2 reasons.

1. The mafia obviously has more then 3 members this time. HotD could still be one of them, or the slasher.

2. None of those 3 have a single vote against them. My vote would be completly useless.

[Daos]

Double Post: Also that is one less person the mafia knows is NOT the hero and they can write them off.

[Blake]

X-3: One role claim really dosen't make it that much easier for the mafia.

Assuming the mafia has 5 members, that leaves 16 people who they do not know the roles of. If one role claims, and they check it, that leaves 15 that they still have to sort through. Changing the odds of killing a hero from(Assuming there are 2) 1:8 to 1:7.5. (The slasher would have 20 left, and a 1:10 instead of 1:10.5)

But you have to consider people are going to drop like flies.

Let's just say there's 16 townies and 5 mafia.

Mafia has to search for 15 victims.

If the mafia are victorious 2 days and 2 nights without a single death on their side and the slasher kills townies then townies are already down 6, leaving only 9 to check. There probably are heroES which greatly reduces the town's advantage by then.

[The Missing Link]

IAN, if you're going to play numbers, you're going to play with TML.

You assume that the Mafia chooses randomly. If they have any strong hunches, and you knock out one of those hunches, it narrows the odds considerably than just a few percent.

[Daos]

Ian, you are getting very close to getting my vote.

[I am nobody]

Daos: I've given my defense. If you choose to vote for me, I can't stop you.

[Apollo the Just]

Double post: Wow, ZG, YET ANOTHER GOOD POINT THAT I MISSED.

Did I un-FoS Ian? In case I did:

FoS: Ian

Oh, and this little thing you said here:

One role claim really dosen't make it that much easier for the mafia.

You keep contradicting yourself, like you're trying to favor two sides at once!! Like the mafia...

You say that one role claim doesn't help the mafia that much... EVEN THOUGH earlier you said that

(Other then that it makes it easier for the mafia to find the heros...)

You say that role-claiming is good, then you state that it could help the mafia find heroes... then you argue that ONE role-claim isn't all that bad, after previously stating you wouldn't mind role-claiming YOURSELF, thusly knocking off MORE mafia targets.

Unless, you don't have anyone to hide from...

Ian, you were ALMOST in the clear before you contradicted yourself again. You keep jumping between sides... JUST AS A MAFIOSO WOULD DO.

I'm nearly ready to vote, as well.

[ZeldaGirl]

Vote: ian

[Apollo the Just]

EDITZ: hyperactive dog; mom wants me to play with him. Back in ten min.

[I am nobody]

In the earlier post I said that role claiming makes it easier for the mafia. In the other post I said it didn't make it that much easier. I did not contradict myself.

[ZeldaGirl]

In the earlier post I said that role claiming makes it easier for the mafia. In the other post I said it didn't make it that much easier. I did not contradict myself.

...

... Maybe I'm misreading this...

[I am nobody]

In the earlier post I said that role claiming makes it easier for the mafia. In the other post I said it didn't make it that much easier. I did not contradict myself.

I never said it did not make it easier. I just said that one role claim did not make it much easier.

[Daos]

I read the same thing, it's a contradiction within a contradiction.

Vote: Ian

[ZeldaGirl]

Teh brainzez, they hurt!