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Getting a job.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:28 am
by VG_Addict
I'm worried I'll be stuck with a low-paying job because I'm not good at math because of a brain injury I had when I was born.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:40 am
by United Nations
I'm not good at math and I've had non-minimum wage jobs. Math isn't everything.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:15 am
by Booyakasha
Most trade guys barely have to do math at all, if they aren't their own bosses. Have you considered trying to get an apprenticeship? Plumbing, heating-and-air, gas, electrical, cable, pest control, welding, maintenance, construction, trucking...there's a ton of good-paying honest work out there for a skilled worker, regardless of his math grades.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:18 am
by VG_Addict
[QUOTE="Booyakasha, post: 1581401, member: 17381"]Most trade guys barely have to do math at all, if they aren't their own bosses. Have you considered trying to get an apprenticeship? Plumbing, heating-and-air, gas, electrical, cable, pest control, welding, maintenance, construction, trucking...there's a ton of good-paying honest work out there for a skilled worker, regardless of his math grades.[/QUOTE]
I'm not interested in any of those jobs.
People will make fun of me for getting those kinds of jobs.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:37 am
by Booyakasha
Who makes fun of a skilled worker? Ignoramuses whose opinions don't matter a damn?
You know, I had a plumber in to fix my kitchen-sink last year. He fixed it. Took him about three hours, he had to bust his ass to do it, but he fixed it. Charged about two-hundred-fifty bucks. If you can charge over eighty bucks an hour, who the hell can look down on you?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:38 am
by VG_Addict
But I don't wanna have a menial labor job.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:48 am
by Booyakasha
...what kind of job do you want, friend?
(Incidentally, calling trades 'menial labor' is really sh*tty, pretentious, ignorant and insulting. Trades require skill and training; menial labor is, by definition, unskilled. The kind of work you can assign someone right off the street. Like to see some jagoff straight off the street try to install a water-heater or operate an industrial crane. For crying out loud.)
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:16 am
by VG_Addict
One that's well-paying.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:34 am
by I am nobody
$80/hr is pretty well paying by any definition.
Going back to the OP, though, "bad at math" isn't very specific. What aren't you good at? Arithmetic? Geometry? Calculus? Statistics? It's plenty possible to get a job that requires one or more of those (or any of the other distinct subjects covered by "math") despite not being any good at the others. Not being good at school math might not even mean anything in terms of what jobs actually need from you.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:38 am
by VG_Addict
[QUOTE="I am nobody, post: 1581413, member: 34539"]$80/hr is pretty well paying by any definition.
Going back to the OP, though, "bad at math" isn't very specific. What aren't you good at? Arithmetic? Geometry? Calculus? Statistics? It's plenty possible to get a job that requires one or more of those (or any of the other distinct subjects covered by "math") despite not being any good at the others. Not being good at school math might not even mean anything in terms of what jobs actually need from you.[/QUOTE]
Not good algebra.
What's the average annual income?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:45 am
by I am nobody
So how's that stop you from doing sales, marketing, etc? There are plenty of office jobs out there that don't require anything resembling school algebra.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:47 am
by Booyakasha
^^for what?
There's good-paying jobs out there, if you're willing to roll your sleeves up.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:48 am
by VG_Addict
[QUOTE="I am nobody, post: 1581415, member: 34539"]So how's that stop you from doing sales, marketing, etc? There are plenty of office jobs out there that don't require anything resembling school algebra.[/QUOTE]
Since when do sales and marketing not require math?
If I can't do algebra, what makes you think I can do the math those jobs require?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:53 am
by I am nobody
The median income is about 57k/year for a household.
No one is going to care if you're using a calculator as long as stuff gets sold. I have family members in both fields, and I've never seen them have to do any algebra that spreadsheets or Wolfram Alpha can't handle.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:56 am
by VG_Addict
[QUOTE="I am nobody, post: 1581419, member: 34539"]The median income is about 57k/year for a household.
No one is going to care if you're using a calculator as long as stuff gets sold. I have family members in both fields, and I've never seen them have to do any algebra that spreadsheets or Wolfram Alpha can't handle.[/QUOTE]
I'll still have to know how to put in the equations, so your advice is useless.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:59 am
by United Nations
[QUOTE="VG_Addict, post: 1581420, member: 34516"]I'll still have to know how to put in the equations, so your advice is useless.[/QUOTE]
Then stop asking for advice.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:00 pm
by VG_Addict
[QUOTE="User Name, post: 1581422, member: 31164"]Then stop asking for advice.[/QUOTE]
Maybe if the advice I got were good.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:03 pm
by I am nobody
How complicated are you expecting sales equations to be? You're not doing the accounting or market research - the overwhelming amount of math you're going to do is just totaling expenses and incomes.
And if that's still too much, be a journalist. Author. Social worker. Politician. Start a business and find someone else to do all the math. The world isn't divided into "math fields" and "physical labor" like you're trying to make it.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:06 pm
by VG_Addict
I did a quick search, and journalists only make 38k a year.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:14 pm
by I am nobody
That's not a universal salary. If you're a good one at a decent outlet, you'll make more than that.
Also note that I said 57 is the median household income. That's for two people who very possibly have children. 38k by yourself without family expenses isn't going to be radically different, and it you're pretty much guaranteed to be over 57k with the addition of a second salary.