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Who Has The Power?

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Post by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:17 pm

Nonsense, I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:05 pm

It just goes to show that painting everything with a broad stroke is not how to do things.

Take each situation as it comes and not like a set of byline rules.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:37 pm

It's only complicated because people complicate it, like whoever made the comic. It went into "I just want to fight" territory when it argued fictional character's consent. Gimme a break.

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Post by SmackDownPete » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:08 am

What is the rules if that fictional character is my waifu?

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Post by Random User » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:32 am

^Does it really matter if you're treating a fictional character as a sex object when they aren't capable of feelings?

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:33 am

[QUOTE="Revenant User, post: 1529744, member: 35827"]^Does it really matter if you're treating a fictional character as a sex object when they aren't capable of feelings?[/QUOTE]

Logically, no, but I guarantee we'll get an emotionally reasoned "yes" soon.

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Post by CaptHayfever » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:30 pm

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And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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Post by Valigarmander » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:57 pm

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:04 pm

WHO HAS THE TOUCH?

WHO HAS THE POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER?

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Post by SmackDownPete » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:32 pm

[MEDIA=youtube]nm6DO_7px1I[/MEDIA]

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Post by I am nobody » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:39 pm

[QUOTE="I REALLY HATE POKEMON!, post: 1529747, member: 18119"]Logically, no, but I guarantee we'll get an emotionally reasoned "yes" soon.[/QUOTE]

I think that was less about the character, who obviously doesn't exist, and more addressed towards the sort of people that insist everything with skimpy dress is sexually empowering. There's an argument for a lot of it, but some games and especially lazy anime have a tendency of forcing that on to characters who clearly would never dress/act that way in real life.

I'm not seeing as much of it anymore, in fairness. That may be down to what I'm playing or (rarely) watching, though.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:18 pm

[QUOTE="CaptHayfever, post: 1529767, member: 25169"]Image

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"[/QUOTE]

Damn, look at him grip the actual blade with his bare hands, no wonder I used to like He-Man.[DOUBLEPOST=1429226319,1429225973][/DOUBLEPOST][QUOTE="I am nobody, post: 1529783, member: 34539"]I think that was less about the character, who obviously doesn't exist, and more addressed towards the sort of people that insist everything with skimpy dress is sexually empowering. There's an argument for a lot of it, but some games and especially lazy anime have a tendency of forcing that on to characters who clearly would never dress/act that way in real life.

I'm not seeing as much of it anymore, in fairness. That may be down to what I'm playing or (rarely) watching, though.[/QUOTE]

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Post by I am nobody » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:30 pm

Your point being what, exactly? I stated facts about an argument other people are having. You highlighted some words indicating that it's all fictional, which I'm pretty sure everyone on both sides of that argument already knows.

Or probably knows, anyway. You can never be sure.

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Post by X-3 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm

It doesn't matter, you're waifu a **** anyway.

I guess with fictional characters it's creator's intention+intended audience or something.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:24 pm

[QUOTE="I am nobody, post: 1529808, member: 34539"]Your point being what, exactly? I stated facts about an argument other people are having. You highlighted some words indicating that it's all fictional, which I'm pretty sure everyone on both sides of that argument already knows.

Or probably knows, anyway. You can never be sure.[/QUOTE]

My point is real life has nothing to do with video games, anime, or fiction in general.
You can't say how Goku would behave or dress in real life, it doesn't work that way.

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Post by I am nobody » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:14 pm

^Yes and no. You can't predict anything absolutely, but it's not much of a stretch to say that an extremely shy character probably isn't going to be doing the whole skimpy outfit thing. It'd be like having a nerdy male scientist character who can't talk to girls never wear anything except leather overalls and a cowboy hat - it's the creator's call, but that's more than a little ridiculous.

Fan service exists and isn't about to go anywhere. It's not hurting anyone as long as people understand that actual humans don't act that way. It's a bit silly when people try and pretend fan service is anything more than that. I don't see what there is to be offended or mad about here.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:47 pm

^ Well, Vegeta wore pink and got a hard time for it. Didn't see that coming. Characters just do things.

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