Why the US is on the good side

[Ditto McCloaker]

I pity poor folk who don't believe in right and wrong.

And people who actually think Socialism can work... in the U.S. no less... well, that just says it all. Man.

[James Van Hammet]

Your arguement is a bad one as well, Lurch.
Neither one of you has disproved the fact that we haven't tried to take over the world.

And, Bolt, simple logic, if somebody says "of all the great military powers" it means you're choosing out of a list of great military powers.

"Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."
Gen. Colin Powell
It's short and simple.
I'm not saying we're the good guys, but every war we've ever had were for REASONS.
Several other countries have invaded other countries to take them over for the land.
We've sent our men and women to do nothing but win.

[ October 09, 2003, 02:32 AM: Message edited by: DBZM is James Van Hammet ]

[Lurch1982]

Ditto: What kind of socialism? Full, hands-on state economy or social welfare (healthcare, assistance, etc)?

DBZM, try pulling your head out of your ass and reading my post again. Yeah, go ahead. Read it. Its a valid and truthful point that illustrates why you do not need to physically take over the world to control it. If you want to deny the simple fact that the major goal in US foreign policy is to influence and dominate the international political scene, do so without attempting to rebuke my arguement (since you are quite obviously incapable of doing so). If you want an even easier indication on why it was a strong arguement, it is because it was ignored here (as every strong arguement is).

[give me food]

Originally posted by Ace Mercury:
Isn't it the American Dream to take over the world?

[James Van Hammet]

DBZM, try pulling your head out of your ass and reading my post again. Yeah, go ahead. Read it. Its a valid and truthful point that illustrates why you do not need to physically take over the world to control it. If you want to deny the simple fact that the major goal in US foreign policy is to influence and dominate the international political scene, do so without attempting to rebuke my arguement (since you are quite obviously incapable of doing so). If you want an even easier indication on why it was a strong arguement, it is because it was ignored here (as every strong arguement is).

I read your arguement.
Quite thoroughly. And as far as Link47's "w3 is da gooden guy!!1"'s thing, you have a point.
But as far as my point that we have never taken land from anyone, your arguement didn't prove jack.
I don't think we're the "good guys" either, because as far as this type of issue is concerned, I too think it is a cliche'.
Good guys don't exist in this type of matter.
But as far as my arguement, you didn't prove anything, you just sat there and talked about the cold war and such as if I actually care.
If you're trying to make a point against Link47, then touche', but if you're trying to prove me wrong, then try pulling your head out of your own ass, because none of that arguement has any relevance to mine.

And Prince Toad, go **** yourself.
You're in the most dire need of a blow job then any person i've ever met in my life, it isn't my fault that you can't make any valid arguement on anything.

I swear to god, Bolt's the only one worth arguing with anymore.
No matter how stupid his arguements can be(aka the one in this topic), he doesn't insult anybody as a general rule, and eventually he backs off if he realizes he's not putting up any valid points.

[ October 09, 2003, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: DBZM is James Van Hammet ]

[James Van Hammet]

Maybe I don't back down when I should, but you don't either.

Touche' but I didn't say I did anyway.

I find it interesting that everybody assumes i'm a christian.

I can definitely make valid arguments on a lot of things.

You sure as hell didn't on that abortion topic.
And I don't think you've even tried to in this topic.
That's not an insult, FYI.

[ October 09, 2003, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: DBZM is James Van Hammet ]

[Lurch1982]

I wasn't talking to you in the first place, I was counter-arguing L47s original post. You decided to butt in and thus made an ass of yourself.

And, if you read my post (which I'm still doubting), the point is that we don't have to take land to control it anymore. We can pull enough strings (be it militarily, economically, diplomatically, or in some other form) to get what we want in 90% of situations.