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Nintendo of America Sucks

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:02 pm
by Crazyswordsman
"I know there's a big Mother/Earthbound fanbase. I just don't like it, so I'm not translating Mother 3."

In other words, NoA is saying "F you" to us Mother/Earthbound fans.

I've never been so insulted by a video game company in my life. -CSM

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:58 pm
by X-3
You just noticed that?

I thought NoA sucked after I saw the way they treat NSiders. And after I learned how bad their ToP localization was.

But yeah, they're not translating Mother 3 because of Earthbound's sales, I think. Last I heard, they didn't even advertise it that much. i want Mother 3. and Mother 1/2. In English. :(

Starmen United - The Nsider Earthbound Crusade! Calling for action! - Power On - Nintendo NSider Forums

You may find that interesting, though.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:34 pm
by Crazyswordsman
Obviously it would sell enough to make them a small fortune. EB doesn't sell as well as, say, Zelda, but it does have probably the most dedicated fans of any videogame. -CSM

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:40 pm
by Seeking Attention
Wait X-3.How do they treat Nsiders badly? I havent noticed them treat us badly.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:31 pm
by X-3
^Easy: ridiculous rules, rank system, removal of good stuff(like Power On RP), and no custom icons.

^^True. But for some reason, they just won't translate it...Instead they just act confused at the name of Mother 3.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:56 pm
by Seeking Attention
[QUOTE=X-3]^Easy: ridiculous rules, rank system, removal of good stuff(like Power On RP), and no custom icons.

^^True. But for some reason, they just won't translate it...Instead they just act confused at the name of Mother 3.[/QUOTE]
Oh right.The rules are stupid and the rank system is useless.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:46 am
by Valentine
You're still going to play it.
You're still going to love it.

Is it really that big a deal?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:46 pm
by Crazyswordsman
Once I get an illegal ROM translation I will play it forever. -CSM

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:05 pm
by Jesus
[QUOTE=Crazyswordsman]"I know there's a big Mother/Earthbound fanbase. I just don't like it, so I'm not translating Mother 3."

In other words, NoA is saying "F you" to us Mother/Earthbound fans.

I've never been so insulted by a video game company in my life. -CSM[/QUOTE]


Oh sure because a company that's trying to make money is actually out to piss you off. Come on people! You guys are being a little too harsh. NoA doesn't suck...it's just that if they were to translate every game that existed from Japan then there would be no time for new releases and stuff. It's a lot of work to translate a game. You guys probably never know, maybe they will translate it later. They aren't out to get you, trust me. They would lose money if they would.

Oh and Irby what's this rank system you speak of? It doesn't sound true. And if theres a majority of americans who actually disliked the Earthbound game then chances are they aren't going to try to sell something that research shows would fail in the market. It's all about money, don't be pissed off about it. It's a fact of life.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:40 pm
by Perrin Aybara
Yeah, that is lame.

I mean, it's one thing to not make a game that everyone will kill for (Like Chrono Break)

It's another thing to simply not translate a game that's already made simply because you're lazy.

Of course, I've never played Earthbound. Need to try it sometime.-jay

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:16 am
by Deepfake
All you have to do is take a glance at Starmen.net and you'll see that it's silly not to do even a budget translation-release. The problem is that the GBA is more or less a retired system. It should have been a DS game - then it would have a chance.

Either way, you'll still get to play it. Do yourself a favor and buy a Flash cart for your GBA, so you can play it properly when the guys at Starmen finish their translation.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:20 am
by Jesus
I honestly think NoA would lose money if they had released this game even for the DS in America.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:44 am
by Deepfake
That's a stupid and foolish assumption. All evidence points otherwise.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:01 pm
by Jesus
Well think about it...it's a little too late for a translation. And considering the game is a little outdated, and considering it has been mass pirated and translated already, they actually would lose some money on this deal! I know it's NoA's mistake for not translating it immediately but they had so many other things on their mind at the time such as the Wii. Oh and please tell me this evidence that points otherwise I'd love to hear it.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:34 pm
by Perrin Aybara
it's a little too late for a translation
How so?

And how much could it possibly cost to translate a game that's already made.

Just hire some people who speak Japanese and English, lock them in a room with nothing but Mountain Dew, and bam. That's it.-jay

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:36 pm
by Mikhail Gorbachev
Zero Wing

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:09 pm
by Seeking Attention
[QUOTE=wariovswario]
Oh and Irby what's this rank system you speak of? It doesn't sound true. And if theres a majority of americans who actually disliked the Earthbound game then chances are they aren't going to try to sell something that research shows would fail in the market. It's all about money, don't be pissed off about it. It's a fact of life.[/QUOTE]
The rank system is a retarded thing Nintendo made on their forums. You have to reach a certain rank to post pics, edit posts. Its stupid. Also the rank system has nothing to do with Earthbound Wvsw.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:05 pm
by Rainbow Dash
Mother3.org - Fan Translation Project

Farther ahead than Starmen.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:18 am
by Deepfake
[QUOTE=wariovswario]Well think about it...it's a little too late for a translation. And considering the game is a little outdated, and considering it has been mass pirated and translated already, they actually would lose some money on this deal! I know it's NoA's mistake for not translating it immediately but they had so many other things on their mind at the time such as the Wii. Oh and please tell me this evidence that points otherwise I'd love to hear it.[/QUOTE]
What are you on about? The game just came out this past year in Japan. It is not translated yet. All of the people working on translations have explicitly said they would prefer an official version. And did you forget Starmen.net's 30,000 signature petition? That's 30,000 people outright who would be guaranteed to buy Mother 3, were it released. People who want it, specifically, without barely any information released stateside.

Also, plenty of games with GBA-grade graphics have been moved to the DS. Overall, you do not need colossal advertising and sales to sell a budget videogame. Tons of companies do it all the time. The idea that Nintendo is too small a company to afford translating it is ridiculous. And sometimes, it's considered good policy to just honor the fan's wishes, even if the profit is marginal. That creates dedicated buyers. Nintendo is a huge company, and has even publicly acknowledged the Earthbound fanbase. Miyamoto himself has publicly acknowledged that the size in the US is much larger than he had imagined. It's just customer neglect to avoid it with petty imagined excuses like the ones you provide.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:53 am
by comeonman1111
30000 vs the entire US. When you sell it at even 49.99 that's not a lot of money you'd be making off of a videogame. Games to be successful have to sell a lot more than 30000. They wouldn't be making as much money now. Maybe if they released it as a gamecube game it would be different.