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Post by Wyborn » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:29 am

Wait, you're reading Wytos? Man, been a while since I read that.

It appears to be the battle that Shane's long hand ceased to reach back into, about halfway through. You're missing a certain amount of perspective there. Galefore can undelete the missing posts if he wants (or repster for that matter), and then you'll see the last part of what went on there.

In spite of how ridiculous it got, I'm proud of it.
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#422

Post by Firestorm » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:53 am

Told you so
Selene Starblade wrote:Very nice, Kargath. It's good to see someone like you emerging from absolutely nowhere.
I seem to recall saying something about Kargath surprising us...

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#423

Post by The Willful Wanderer » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:03 am

ANYWHO.

I'mma ask if whichever of you two wins could both

a: let me get first post in the final battle

and

b: let me know if a more physical or more metaphysical battle is wanted.

PLX.
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Post by Kargath » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:21 am

Firestorm wrote:I seem to recall saying something about Kargath surprising us...
:p
Selene Starblade wrote:I'mma ask if whichever of you two wins could both

a: let me get first post in the final battle

and

b: let me know if a more physical or more metaphysical battle is wanted.

PLX.
So long as there's ground that's not covered by forest or grassland, on a planet with air, I'll be able to implement my idea.
Wyborn wrote:Wait, you're reading Wytos? Man, been a while since I read that.

It appears to be the battle that Shane's long hand ceased to reach back into, about halfway through. You're missing a certain amount of perspective there. Galefore can undelete the missing posts if he wants (or repster for that matter), and then you'll see the last part of what went on there.

In spite of how ridiculous it got, I'm proud of it.
Wait, it gets LONGER? O_O *headexplodey*
It was kind of a chore to plow through that at 3am trying to get the details of Richter's (and Yggdrasil's) mythology at least semi-right so that I could sleep some and not kill myself and my sister driving in a few hours. Still some fun bits to read though, even when you feel like you've come in during the middle of a 10-novel cycle.


In other news, I suspect my posts were unconciously inspired by Interpol's "Obstacle 1":

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I wish I could eat the salt off of your lost faded lips

We can cap the old times, make playing only logical harm
We can cap the old lines, make playing that nothing else will change
But she can read, she can read, she can read, she can read, she's bad
She can read, she can read, she can read, she's bad
Oh, she's bad

It's different now that I'm poor and aging. I'll never see this face again
You go stabbing yourself in the neck
It's different now that I'm poor and aging, and I'll never see this place again
and you go stabbing yourself in the neck

We can find new ways of living make playing only logical harm
And we can top the old times, clay-making that nothing else will change
But she can read, she can read, she can read, she can read, she's bad
She can read, she can read, she can read, she's bad
Oh, she's bad

It's different now that I'm poor and aging, I'll never see this place again
You go stabbing yourself in the neck
But it's different now that I'm poor and aging, I'll never see this place again
And you go stabbing yourself in the neck

It's in the way that she posed, it's in the things that she puts in my head
Her stories are boring and stuff, she's always calling my bluff
She puts, she puts the weights into my little heart
And she gets in my room and she takes it apart
She puts the weights into my little heart
I said she puts the weights into my little heart

She packs it away

It's in the way that she walks
Her heaven is never enough
She puts the weights in my heart
She puts, oh she puts the weights into my little heart
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Post by Wyborn » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:58 am

Kargath wrote: Wait, it gets LONGER? O_O *headexplodey*
It was kind of a chore to plow through that at 3am trying to get the details of Richter's (and Yggdrasil's) mythology at least semi-right so that I could sleep some and not kill myself and my sister driving in a few hours. Still some fun bits to read though, even when you feel like you've come in during the middle of a 10-novel cycle.
I dunno longer, but the missing posts (all of them mine) were...something else.

I was the one that actually destroyed the universe.

Well, no. But I did send it spiraling into oblivion, denying it rebirth or even remembrance.

What a good day.

Still not a whole picture of Richter. Nice portrait of Reala, though.

Did Terror actually make Yggdrasil burn? I forget.

...Richter has no illusions about the permanence of creation.
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Post by Kargath » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:58 am

^I saved every battle that had the keyword "Richter". I'm sure there's a better portrait there somewhere, but I thought you guys would actually like to read a post from me :p
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Post by Wyborn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:55 am

Kargath wrote:^I saved every battle that had the keyword "Richter". I'm sure there's a better portrait there somewhere, but I thought you guys would actually like to read a post from me :p
True enough.

....Didn't expect a character who was literally God Mode incarnate, though. Really didn't expect her to get praised, either. But whatever.

Repster, I'd appreciate it if I was allowed to handle the Tournament of Red Lions, for a few reasons (namely that, unlike SML, I'm still active). But I'm also thinking of just jazzing up the scene with the Red Lion's bigger, meaner cousin, which would really be "big kids only".

Anybody who's interested drop me a PM, I need to bounce ideas off of people.
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Post by Repster » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:08 am

Go ahead, less work for me = good.
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Post by Kargath » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:26 am

Had I had a couple more posts, Lucille would either have beaten Richter, restored the story and had the Book heal her, or simply just died of blood loss from the 'Deschaine Abortion'. Next post I was going to have her use Words to simply keep herself upright, but we're on a schedule here and unless Erdawn wants to continue this afterwards.

If Richter knew the consequences of killing Lucille (ie his permanent death and the fracturing of his entire story and the probable fracturing of all other stories in the Book due to lack of maitenance), would he still do it, I wonder?
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Post by Wyborn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:30 am

Kargath wrote:Had I had a couple more posts, Lucille would either have beaten Richter, restored the story and had the Book heal her, or simply just died of blood loss from the 'Deschaine Abortion'. Next post I was going to have her use Words to simply keep herself upright, but we're on a schedule here and unless Erdawn wants to continue this afterwards.

If Richter knew the consequences of killing Lucille (ie his permanent death and the fracturing of his entire story and the probable fracturing of all other stories in the Book due to lack of maitenance), would he still do it, I wonder?
...Good God, you literally cannot be serious.
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Post by Kargath » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:34 am

????
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Post by Wyborn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:42 am

Do you realize that setting yourself up as a God character, inherently superior to and lording over your opponent, goes against every single tenant of the battlefield since it was created? That **** didn't even fly at SuperBard, and EVERYTHING flew at SuperBard. It effectively makes you unkillable, you can heal yourself any time you like, you can erase the effects of whatever attack is leveled against you, and oh yeah, you can basically kill your enemy, guaranteed, no matter what happens.

That's not just shameful and in blatant disregard of our rules, it's absolutely embarrassing and I'm embarrassed to have read it.

And Erdawn is reading this stupidity! Do you realize what he's going to do? He bit off Lucille's hand and shot her in the innards because that's his standard operating procedure. When you play God with him?

Hey, Rep, if you're still here, any chance you can undelete my posts in that Wytos topic? It was silly but fun to read.
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Post by Kargath » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:52 am

I have to escalate things as my opponent does. Lucille has limits, it is just that the battle has not gotten far enough for that ... well actually it has. Erdawn shot Lucy up the dress, and given what I originally had in mind for her extent of resilience, she should have died that instant. Yet I had to extend the battle enough so that both Erdawn and I have another full post each.

Have you ever noticed how I only ever do surface damage in my first attack posts? I do it so there is a chance of the fight not spending its entire credibility budget in the first four posts.
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Post by Videospirit » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:15 am

Wyborn wrote:Do you realize that setting yourself up as a God character, inherently superior to and lording over your opponent, goes against every single tenant of the battlefield since it was created? That **** didn't even fly at SuperBard, and EVERYTHING flew at SuperBard. It effectively makes you unkillable, you can heal yourself any time you like, you can erase the effects of whatever attack is leveled against you, and oh yeah, you can basically kill your enemy, guaranteed, no matter what happens.

That's not just shameful and in blatant disregard of our rules, it's absolutely embarrassing and I'm embarrassed to have read it.

And Erdawn is reading this stupidity! Do you realize what he's going to do? He bit off Lucille's hand and shot her in the innards because that's his standard operating procedure. When you play God with him?

Hey, Rep, if you're still here, any chance you can undelete my posts in that Wytos topic? It was silly but fun to read.
Even gods can die. My absolutely most powerful characters, Videospirit included, were designed with combating gods in mind. Videospirit even has a vendetta against gods.

It's just, characters like that should never under any circumstances be used in a fight against characters who don't stand a chance against them.

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Post by Wyborn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:24 am

Kargath wrote:I have to escalate things as my opponent does. Lucille has limits, it is just that the battle has not gotten far enough for that ... well actually it has. Erdawn shot Lucy up the dress, and given what I originally had in mind for her extent of resilience, she should have died that instant. Yet I had to extend the battle enough so that both Erdawn and I have another full post each.

Have you ever noticed how I only ever do surface damage in my first attack posts? I do it so there is a chance of the fight not spending its entire credibility budget in the first four posts.
You came into this battle with a character who can fundamentally change the fabric of the universe - of ALL universes? - and did so in the beginning of the fight. You've presented her as Richter's superior since your first post, regardless of how much damage you did or did not do and did or did not receive, and there was no escalation involved with the creation of your character.

You made a character who's essentially God, against whom you state absolutely that Richter has no chance. That's such poor form it's barely worth talking about, and there's no excuse or justification for that kind of behavior. Period.
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Post by Repster » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:47 am

Might inability to keep myself form this place before going to bed is why your request shall be granted now, instead of in say... 12-14 hours Wyborn.

Also:
If Richter knew the consequences of killing Lucille (ie his permanent death and the fracturing of his entire story and the probable fracturing of all other stories in the Book due to lack of maitenance), would he still do it, I wonder?
Yes. Without skipping a beat.
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Post by Wyborn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:03 am

Killer. Ah, looking back...

I don't think I've let my hair down like that since.
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Post by Erdawn Il Deus » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:10 am

WOah. I start writing and suddenly, everyone's arguing. All over little old me?
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#439

Post by Videospirit » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:23 am

You dislike that turn of events erdawn?

Also, something eating your focus? You haven't posted in our battle since your first ic post.

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Post by Kargath » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:33 am

Wyborn wrote:You came into this battle with a character who can fundamentally change the fabric of the universe - of ALL universes? - and did so in the beginning of the fight. You've presented her as Richter's superior since your first post, regardless of how much damage you did or did not do and did or did not receive, and there was no escalation involved with the creation of your character.

You made a character who's essentially God, against whom you state absolutely that Richter has no chance. That's such poor form it's barely worth talking about, and there's no excuse or justification for that kind of behavior. Period.
She could make Richter sprout broccoli from his ears, but she never would. Remember that Lucille is essentially just an instrument of Fate - she'll only change reality in the service of restoring it to its proper course, and then only in a minimal fashion.
Another thing that would have been emphasised in more posts is how larger changes take more Words and more time to do (hence Lucille asking Richter to stay put).
Nowhere did I state that Richter has no chance. Given the way Lucille must operate and Richter's lack of caring of what happens, he has a hell of a chance.
If a character technically has infinite power in reserve, but never touches hardly any of it, how is that still cheap?

In other news, I just realised this entire process is an Prisoner's dilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, Erdawn, I haven't read your post yet, just the initial OOC line, but Richter lost his legs because of the defensive field around the Book and pedestal. I mentioned in my intro post it would incinerate anything except Lucille that touched it. So Richter trips and his legs get vaporised accidentally.
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