11th Nintendoland Battlefield Tournament: 1st Round Battles

[Repster]

Silly TehDarkness. All pissy about Volkswagen, yet you misspell Aidan the only time you need to.

[Kargath]

[QUOTE=t3hDarkness]
Inferno versus Kargath

Props for one of the longer battles, but the entire out of character squabbling was annoying. Selene Starblade brought up a very good point about communal reality, thank you, it was a very good point. Now butt out. Keep it in the discussion topic if there even is one, if there isn‘t make one. The thread is for the battle, not the bickering.
Inferno Dragon, I hate, hate, hate, Hate, hAte, HATE your character but I won’t hold that against your score. You have quite the developed back story and motivations for your character and Kargath did well to play along.

Inferno Dragon
I realized, I have no clue what your character looks like, in fact nearly every description for your character was lacking or at the very least assuming that we already knew what was going on.
Some of your passages were difficult to follow as well as a variety of distracting spelling (Infero for one), grammatical errors, and overall flow hiccups. Don’t forget to capitalize proper nouns, Such as Saiyan and Elven and the first word of a sentences. It was probably because of using script form that you missed the capitalizations.
The reattaching of a prosthetic nose doesn’t really qualify as healing in my book, but it was kind of...
Stupid.
And what was your opponent’s character doing while ‘Infero’ wastes time in the heat of battle creating a prosthetics and clones? The humorous element you tried to add was distracting and had the “Oh crap, I need to fill up some more space” feel to it so I’ll take away another point for that.
Next time use a spell checker,
T3hDarkness: “Avoid script style unless you use it correctly.”
and finish describing what everything is to score much higher.

Kargath
Strictly speaking, you were the better writer, but a few small things, such as spacing issues and minor misspellings held you back. The alternate spellings of words were odd to me, but nothing to lose points for. You wrote more action for both characters than Infero Dragon wrote just for himself.

Inferno Dragon= 1
Kargarth = 4
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I never meant for that whole drama stuff to explode. I seriously did think the story of Phineas Gage was much more widespread - but it was my mistake, so it's fair I get docked a bit for that one.

Also, when you talk about the amount of writing I did ... did you consider that a bad or good thing?

Yeah, I think we should make the "NLBFT Chat" thread like other years. It'll help keep down the amount of OOCs here.

Certainly looking forward to the other judges' verdicts.

[Metal Man]

[quote="repster]Silly TehDarkness. All pissy about Volkswagen"]



Also, while I don't really mind what my score is (as I do battling for the sake of it), a note is that while Metal Man is the same as my username, he isn't all that much of a Mary Sue. At least, the ideal representation of my qualities isn't a heartless killing machine with no soul. Although you might argue the importance thing... he's just a bum travelling on the interdimensional pathways to me.

[The Willful Wanderer]

Faint praise nothing, you damn me loudly.

I, uh... geez. 8? Wow.

Oh, and Mak0 wants me to let everyone know that:

^_^

[Kargath]

For those that haven't seen it:
forums/gunjin-battlefield/52284-nlbft-1 ... hread.html

[Inferno Dragon]

what the @#$&?!

[QUOTE=t3hDarkness][
Inferno Dragon
I realized, I have no clue what your character looks like, in fact nearly every description for your character was lacking or at the very least assuming that we already knew what was going on.
Some of your passages were difficult to follow as well as a variety of distracting spelling (Infero for one), grammatical errors, and overall flow hiccups. Don’t forget to capitalize proper nouns, Such as Saiyan and Elven and the first word of a sentences. It was probably because of using script form that you missed the capitalizations.
The reattaching of a prosthetic nose doesn’t really qualify as healing in my book, but it was kind of...
Stupid.
And what was your opponent’s character doing while ‘Infero’ wastes time in the heat of battle creating a prosthetics and clones? The humorous element you tried to add was distracting and had the “Oh crap, I need to fill up some more space” feel to it so I’ll take away another point for that.
Next time use a spell checker,
T3hDarkness: “Avoid script style unless you use it correctly.”
and finish describing what everything is to score much higher.

Kargath
Strictly speaking, you were the better writer, but a few small things, such as spacing issues and minor misspellings held you back. The alternate spellings of words were odd to me, but nothing to lose points for. You wrote more action for both characters than Infero Dragon wrote just for himself.

Inferno Dragon= 1
Kargarth = 4[/QUOTE]


so what you're saying is that even though Kargath broke two rules in one post by
(1.) trying to kill my character in his post
(2.) healing
he gets a higher score because his posts were longer?! I'm sorry but that's just being bias! this is an outrage Darkness!you are rewarding him for breaking the rules and punishing me for no reason other than "oops, I forgot a character description and I write in script format"

let me explain something to you darkness as a judge you are supposed to be an unbias entity to ensure that you're personal feelings don't get in the way of making a decision about the battle and to see that the rules of the tourniment AND the gunjin are upheld and that those who break the rules are punished! but what you just did was ignore the fact that Kargath broke the rules and awarded him a higher score for it and slapped me with a low score because you don't like my writing style.

DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS?!

[The Willful Wanderer]

I see only one problem with this.

Namely, that your reasoning for calling him an unfair judge is based on something he didn't say.

It's entirely possible to be more descriptive and give a clear idea of what's happening without having a very long post- which is the only thing he said that you could possibly have gotten the idea that your score was hurt by having short posts from. You also seem to be totally ignoring the entire rest of his judgement. He gives more than one reason for his cutting your score below a 5.

Actually, scratch that, there's another thing wrong with this: These other reasons that you seem to be ignoring have been stated to you before, and you've had every opportunity to work on them. But you've consistently not done so by focusing entirely on the idea that everyone hates you because you write short posts- which is clearly not what's happening.

Now, I feel that this post here is within allowability, since you've just made a general appeal to everyone/anyone reading this topic, but I strongly suggest that you restrain any further complaints either to the OOC thread or to PMs, just so that people who aren't involved and have no desire to try to get involved don't have to deal with it.

[Inferno Dragon]

but the fact remains that he was still bias and completely ignored that Kargath broke the rules selene, how do we know he wasn't being bias about other parts of his judgement?

[LOOT]

I sense a great sense of irony.

[QUOTE=Galefore Von Karma]4. The judges word is final. I want to see good sportsmanship from the loser, and likewise from winner. I will be honest and tell you that if I lose my battle, I will not complain. Simply put, it is un-sportsmanlike and very dishonorable.
[/QUOTE]
Simply put, no bitching, Inferno. I believe the judges already went over Kargath's posts.

Besides, there's TWO other judges. Hell, I may just beat Asnabel. May happen, may not happen, it's just possible.

[Inferno Dragon]

^ I'm not complaining because of my low score, I'm complaining that darkness rewarded Kargath for braking the rules and was bias in his judgement! let me quote that part where he was talking about Kargath.

"Strictly speaking, you were the better writer, but a few small things, such as spacing issues and minor misspellings held you back. The alternate spellings of words were odd to me, but nothing to lose points for. You wrote more action for both characters than Infero Dragon wrote just for himself."

I'd say breaking the rules twice in one post is enough grounds to loose points, don't you? I mean at the last tourny I got docked 3 points for attempting to kill galefore and only because it was my first offense but darkness didn't penalyze Kargath mfor trying to kill my character in his post, oh no, he penalyzed him only one point for "grammatical errors" where as I didn't break any rules and got slapped with a 4 point penalty!

[The Willful Wanderer]

OH, for the love of all that lives.

He was saying, in that sentence, that the alternate spellings were nothing to lose points for.

Grammatically and intent-wise, he was referring to the ALTERNATE SPELLINGS.

The alternate spellings were what he was saying were nothing to lose points over.

He was saying that he wasn't deducting any points for the alternate spellings.

Hopefully, I have been able to clarify that sentence for you, Inferno.

Additionally, you weren't penalized for trying to kill Galefore, you were penalized for deciding you had killed Galefore. There is a very, *very* big difference between writing out an attempt to do something, and writing that it has been done irrespective of the subject of said attempt's wishes, thoughts, or knowledge of how to avoid, blunt, or baffle the matter.

[Inferno Dragon]

nonono selene, see I had misunderstood galefores post when I did what I did because I thought he wanted to end the match,that was miscommunication and I attoned for what I did.

but Kargath blatently blew my brain apart for no reason at all and had the gall to say "oh you can survive getting your brain blown up because you're a lizzard". that would have been the end of it because really I could not survive that, NO ONE COULD! face it, HE KILLED ME AND HEALED AFTERWARD! the only reason I was able to continue was because I was forced to use a BS excuse like a fire clone which I REALLY didn't want to do.

[Acradius]

I have don't have anything to say.

Phoenix does.

[Erdawn Il Deus]

OoC: Despite this, Inferno is right. Naughty Kargath. Gotta abide by the rules. personally I don't give a crap which of them wins but it's something to think on. In the end it's up to darkness though - despite Kargath's mistakes, does he still consider him having given a better performance overall, which is what this is based on anyway.

And Inferno, stop whining.

[Inferno Dragon]

^ I'm just trying to make sure everyone is judged fairly and I have reason to believe that not everyone is being judged fairly.

[Galefore]

Dammit, Inferno, here's the deal. I got a 5. And I had no idea what the hell TD was talking about in his judgement. Did I complain? No.

So please, quit complaining. I reported not only Kargath's attack, but your healing. As such, you likely recieved a minor deduction for this. As well, Kargath was assuredly penalized.

But, and don't take this too hard: You would have lost without the deductions. You may have even lost WITH his deduction and none on your side. Why? Because out of the two of you, Kargath is better.

I don't condone to god-moding. And despite what Kargath thinks, that was out of line. Even so, he whooped you. Deal with it or just get over it, because you tend to turn everything you're in into a drama. Just let the next two judges post, then afterward, register any complaint in the chat thread so it can be ignored there, not here.

[Joker]

Same scenario different Judge and different Tournament number !!


Inferno your points are no doubt valid, but because you are just a contestant participating in this shindig you and all the rest of the warriors are at the mercy of the judges. Since each judge has a scale on how they can score each match, each judge themselves can decided how they are going to implement that scale in their own scoring of each fight. Some judges will be seen as being fairer than others, eg. ( the HotD, Saria Dragon, issues we had a few tournaments ago) and others will be viewed as being biased or as having disregarded the rules altogether.

But that’s the beauty of being a judge. In the end the score you give the contestants as well as your reasons for giving them are just matter of opinion. The whole idea of having a tournament rely on a judge’s score is so that you can get a personal opinion from those who read your work. What’s in your head and what you write will not always play out the same way once read by a third person with their own opinion and sense of imagination.

As I read the fight I would have gone another route in my judgment but thank god I’m not a judge. Now if it were apparent that all three judges were biased against you and judged your fight based solely on that fact then I would agree you that you were robbed. But this is not the case here. Having an odd number of judges is best in this instance, because even if you find that maybe one judge hypothetically has it in for you, the odds of the other two judges sharing that same disdain and basing their scores on that fact are very small. Plus, now everyone is reading the judges scores with waiting eyes, so if a judge appears to many to be biased in any case or perhaps to have extremely sour judgment, I assure you many voices will arise next tournament should that person try to offer their skills as a judge again.

The judges have been picked, they are giving their scores and comments and the winners and losers are being selected. Take what they say in stride, what ever you do not agree with hold off until all judges have given their scores and explanations. Then look at the whole picture, try and see if they all were saying the same thing or if each judge offered a different take on your writing than you yourself had intended. Use these comments they give you to make your writing better or more entertaining. Or be like the old Vampire Lord and say screw you to everyone else, write for yourself and no one else. Write what you like to read, make the action unfold at a pace that you are comfortable with and at a level of description your happy to use. In the end I don’t think your gripes with the judges decision are unfounded, but I also don’t think that you should be telling him how to judge your fight simply because of a few rules that got broken.

If it were I, I wouldn’t care if he broke every single rule in every single sentence of the fight. If his writing entertained me more than the other guy/girl than I’m giving them the win. Yeah I would take into consideration the rules of the tournament, but for me it really matters as to who made the story more entertaining.


That’s not to say don’t follow the rules and hope that you guys have Joker as one of your judges. Just don’t be so quick to anger if a judge doesn’t use the rules as a major ingredient in creating their scores for you.

[Galefore]

^THAT post needs to be framed and placed in the hall of undying awesome. Great advice.

[Heroine of the Dragon]

I am sorry I don't have time to read all that above... but I am going to drop some bad news on you, nonetheless.

I shall be late by a day, two at the most, in putting up my decision. Why? Because I am dealing with the loss of a very dear friend of mine. Tis hard to think past real death right now.

I appreciate it if you can wait, but will understand if you feel the need to carry on without my scores. Back soon as I can.

[Galefore]

Aw, man... I'm sorry to hear that. I honestly can say that for that reason, I will gladly wait a day or two. My condolences...